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Post by Setharion on Jun 1, 2011 15:42:08 GMT -5
So my wife and I been following it since day 1 pretty much, im sure those from florida may be following it alot more closely in general but im just curious whos watching it.
We will be watching todays trialday later on tonight, weve had it recorded. Im glad they are airing it on trutv.
What do some of you guys think? I feel shes guilty as it gets, the new defense that they are using I really dont feel is...solid enough.
I just dont see George Anthony letting his daughter take the fall like this if he truely was part of it and covered up Caylee's death, i just dont see him letting Casey take the fall for it like this. There was just way to much at the start of this that happened to make me believe George is part of it.
Ill stop there though for a minute and see who else is following it on TV.
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Post by Bezgagain20 on Jun 3, 2011 10:46:25 GMT -5
I hate it being in orlando, the news takes like 30minutes of its hour to bullshit about it.
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Post by Setharion on Jun 28, 2011 11:42:24 GMT -5
Im so intrigued by it though, i love watching court cases Weve been watching it since 2008, but the court cases is so interesting. I cant be the only one aruond here watching it though, like...seriously watching it!
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Post by Def Dave 7 on Jun 28, 2011 11:44:05 GMT -5
She's one evil little ***** and I hope she rots.
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Post by Setharion on Jun 28, 2011 11:44:49 GMT -5
Big Dave!! Been awhile my broski
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Post by Obiwan316 on Jun 28, 2011 12:21:34 GMT -5
She is super guilty. I don't know how she could get off.
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Post by Setharion on Jun 28, 2011 12:45:34 GMT -5
Well the thing about this case is that most of the evidence is circumstantial, which is what makes it hard.
Imho shes guilty, but there are things that do raise questions. But i mean id be writing all day long to talk about it honestly but i do feel that she either killed Caylee because she was being bogged down and because Cindy maybe seemed to love caylee more or give caylee more attention and basically it puts Casey on the back burner, or caylee loved her grandmother more and this in turn was just all part of the motive.
Like Dr.G said, they have things that determine homicides and the huge one is when accidents happen they are reported 100% of the time, and this wasnt reported until a month later. She said when a victim is found in a bag, suitcase etc...some sort of object, this also indicates.
All these things are way to coincidental. But the defense is trying to really raise doubt.
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Post by NeoFoxTrot on Jun 29, 2011 7:51:53 GMT -5
If she gets out of this, I hope karma smacks her upside the head.
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Post by BuckFly on Jun 29, 2011 8:00:53 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to judge in advance...but come on, she is as guilty as all get out.
Seth, me and the Mrs. have been watching it as well, not as intently as that guy in Buffalo who owned the muslim TV station, cut off his wife's head...with knives...ON CAMERA...and then defended himself in court, but we have been watching just the same.
One thing, and believe me this is not a defense, but I wonder if it was accidentally: was she trying to knock her daughter out with Chloroform to go out and party, but used to much and killed her?
...guys, I worry about my cats being alright when i leave the house sometimes (if one of them isn't feeling well)...those are cats.
What creates a monster like her?
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Post by NeoFoxTrot on Jun 29, 2011 8:29:16 GMT -5
...guys, I worry about my cats being alright when i leave the house sometimes (if one of them isn't feeling well)...those are cats. What creates a monster like her? This. So much this. I am the same way with my 2 cats. And when I hear stories and testimony about how this piece of filth would get mad at her CHILD because she kept her from going out and partying?! Ugh. There aren't enough words to describe how terrible of a person she is.
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Post by Setharion on Jul 2, 2011 12:54:03 GMT -5
Yes thats the key to this as well...like my wife and I say, we worry when our dogs get loose and freak out because of the road near us. And thats just a PET...
Heres what I feel overall, I agree Buck i wonder if the chloroform was being used as "the nanny" so to speak, well i feel she used zanax as "the nanny" in that context and i feel that wasnt enough, so i think she was looking for something better/stronger and landed upon chloroform, and perhaps it just got to the point where it basically killed Caylee.
I feel that is the most probable situation and she decided to cover it up as a kidnapping first, but of course shes changed her story to it being caylee drowned and her dad helped her...and here is my rebuttal to all of that.
If her dad is this monster that molested her as a child, covered up the death of caylee and had an affair...which you add all that up and that is one SICK individual...why would she NOT take the stand to let it be known from her own mouth what a horrible man he is? Whats to lose right now? Her family is finished, shes facing the death sentence and or life in prison and if your dad was in cahoots with this...you are just going to sit there? No way...no way in hell that happens.
And if george TRUELY was involved...i do not see this man sitting there letting his daughter face this without saying "i did it, it was me...please just put me in her place"...i think most fathers would do that for their child. His life is over, its not like he has really anything to look forward too...hell i think prison would be a better place for him if you ask me, it would end this, it would finish it.....but when youre not guilty youre not going to just fall on the sword like that. If george and cindy were seen vacationing to the bahamas and other places living it up, then i would question the kind of man he is. But this is just a broken father, broken grandfather that got smacked in the face with the most insane situation one could endure when it comes to stuff like this.
The case is so intriguing...it really is. Weve watched almost every bit of it since it happened in 08, so amazinglt intereting. I think the prosecution took this case and ran with it, the defense to me didnt do much of anything.
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Post by NeoFoxTrot on Jul 5, 2011 13:31:32 GMT -5
So, Casey has been acquitted. I think she just got away with murder. I'm not surprised at the verdict, mostly due to lack of hard evidence. But just like The O.J. case, I think the wrong decision has been made.
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Post by Setharion on Jul 5, 2011 13:35:15 GMT -5
Yea, its crap.
Its just sad that Caylee died and there is no justice for her, theres no fingers really pointing at anyone else out there but Casey and thats it...and lie after lie, and Casey just walked away. Total crap imho.
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Post by NeoFoxTrot on Jul 5, 2011 13:40:41 GMT -5
I'm really upset, but like you said, I'm more sad at that fact there is no justice here for Caylee. Makes my skin crawl when I think about whoever killed her, and now they've gotten away with it. I can only hope that new evidence comes to light down the road.
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Post by Obiwan316 on Jul 5, 2011 13:43:49 GMT -5
Not Guilty!! WTF!
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Post by Arunne on Jul 5, 2011 13:46:40 GMT -5
Wow, her crazy lawyers defense managed to muddy things up enough.
I cant wait to see Nancy Grace lose her mind about tot mom. I really hate Nancy Grace.
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Post by Setharion on Jul 5, 2011 13:57:51 GMT -5
The thing that blows my mind is how everything points to casey yet thats not enough. Casey would of never told her parents imho when she left to jacksonville or wherever she was, if it werent for Cindy tracking her down i dont think Casey would of ever came forth until she FINALLY had too.
Its just ashame, because Linda Burdicks closing argument was so powerful, and so full of common sense and i cant believe the jury didnt see the real picture here. When Casey on the sound clip said "all everyone cares about is when they can get Cayelee back".... just speaks volumes.
Honestly it all makes me sick, i been on this case and watching pretty much every tidbit since day 1 and it makes me sick to my stomach. You know the other stuff that should of came in is when Leonard Padilla the bounty hunter bailed casey out of jail for like 200,000 bucks to help casey find caylee, and she ended up kicking the man out of her house...stuff like that tells so much, and it just blows my mind she is going to walk.
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Post by Arunne on Jul 5, 2011 14:19:25 GMT -5
As a parent with a daughter who is the same age as Caylee would be, this just tears me up. Even if Casey's story about the accident was true, i would be out of my skull if anything happened to my daughter.
The only person who justice failed is Caylee.
Couple years ago I spent 2 weeks on a jury for wrongful death civil suit. It really opens your eyes to how this stuff goes from the jury's persepctive. I know in the trial i did, if I had to go with beyond a reasonable doubt, i would have had to gone with not guilty. Even though I knew in my heart the guy did it. But in a civil case its perponderance of evidence and we said yes to guilty. I didnt have to sentance anybody to death, but I did have to place a value on someone's life. Not something I hope I ever have to do again.
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Post by Obiwan316 on Jul 5, 2011 14:20:14 GMT -5
Yeah, all that misdirection appeared to work.
It's impossible for to understand how not reporting a missing daughter for a month is not murder.
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Post by Marrian on Jul 5, 2011 14:21:53 GMT -5
This absolutely disgusts me to no end. Ok, wait...they found her guilty of lying to cops but not guilty of killing her child? What the heck???
Seriously, as a parent AND a human being -- sick to my stomach over this. 33 days of trial, 11 hours of deliberation. That right there is a damn joke!
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Post by Setharion on Jul 5, 2011 14:38:18 GMT -5
Obi, i had already had this thread going from awhile back, i just combined the posts and put my thread in the cantina since it will get a little more attention. Just to keep duplicate threads down its an neccessiary evil And yea guys...just awful. I dont get how this happens at all, like Dr. G said...all the red flags as to WHAT makes for a homicide this case had. I mean the fact is there is no queston Caylee was murdered...who does the Jury think did this? If they think George then they are the most piss poor set of jurors i think that could have ever been assembled. How could all the jury members be totally in agreement? Not one person thought she was guilty? Is that for real? Ashame.
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Post by BuckFly on Jul 5, 2011 14:40:34 GMT -5
Obi, i had already had this thread going from awhile back, i just combined the posts and put my thread in the cantina since it will get a little more attention. Just to keep duplicate threads down its an neccessiary evil And yea guys...just awful. I dont get how this happens at all, like Dr. G said...all the red flags as to WHAT makes for a homicide this case had. I mean the fact is there is no queston Caylee was murdered...who does the Jury think did this? If they think George then they are the most piss poor set of jurors i think that could have ever been assembled. How could all the jury members be totally in agreement? Not one person thought she was guilty? Is that for real? Ashame. Justice did this today: They better give her the maximum sentence on the lying charges.
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Post by Setharion on Jul 5, 2011 14:49:15 GMT -5
The theory about the accident is so ridiculous because how would they even know she was completely dead? Who doesnt call 911 to hopefully MAYBE have the ambulance come and revive her, nobody would just stand there going well look what youve done...thats like something out of a movie.
No honestly, this is my true theory for this whole case:
Casey Anthony imho in her life took Zanax, and i feel when she had Caylee she was stupid enough to think that you should give a kid Zanax to put them to sleep. So i feel as time went by, Zanax was nicknamed "zanny"....and in her mind when she would knock caylee out that was considered so to speak her "nanny"...so you get zanny the nanny. But this wasnt enough after awhile and heres the two splits i feel that happened:
1. She needed something that for one wasnt going to cost her like Zanax, so making her own chloroform is a simple solution for someone that sick and desperate. So i feel she searched for chloroform and was going to use that for knocking Caylee out. I feel she may of botched the creation of this and killed her, and thought "omg what have i done"...and then procedded to stage it as a kidnapping and this is why she was found with duct tape and in a bag etc...Because think of it you cant call 911 saying "hi i just tried to chloroform my kid, i think i killed her please hurry"...because thats it, shes going to jail just based on that alone. So this to me imho is one of the probable scenarios which i still feel life in prison or at least 20,30 to 40 years would suffice. Honestly i cant say on time of sentencing, but i feel that alone needs a long time in prison.
2. She hated the fact that the family doted over Caylee and think about it, Casey probably became the last of their focus. It was all about Caylee...and i think she thought well ill show my parents and i think like Jeff Ashton said, she looked up chloroform to let Caylee go peacefully. And she then covered her face with the duct tape, i believe she thought about burying her in the backyard and probably laid caylee down in the backyard in that laundry bag...which is why the dogs hit in the backyard in the same area. And i think when she got that far it was like omg i cant do this i need to find somewhere for caylee and get moving.
Remember the text to her friend saying about the dead animal, that is sad because that is when Caylee was just decomposing in the trunk of that car...there was no animal, there was nothing but an attempt by casey to try and build a story to throw people off.
I could go on with it, but the girl deserves a sentence...what a sad excuse for a bunch of Jurors. How do these people just not even think for one second Caylee deserves this justice?
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Post by BuckFly on Jul 5, 2011 14:56:44 GMT -5
I think she used chloroform to knock Caylee out so she could go partying without any interruptions...Not knowing that chloroform could kill her.
Man, do they have an absolutely gorgeous location in hell just waiting for her.
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Post by Setharion on Jul 5, 2011 15:01:09 GMT -5
Yea Buck, i think thats what the chloroform was for...but i just wonder how long it lasted meaning, im curious how technical one must be to make chloroform without making it too strong or too weak...like since they didnt find it saturated in hair samples makes me feel that she didnt "get" to chloroform her as much as she wanted, thats why i wonder if she on accident killed her with it.
Part of me wants to say that for her to go "im killing caylee"....seems, a stretch...but then i think what brings me right back to earth is when i see and know, remember, what she did in those 31 days...partying, sleeping with her bf and watching movies, nothing on Caylee whatsoever.
So even if it WAS a drowning accident, how do you just go party and act like nothing happened? Thats why i feel again after i think on it, i feel it was pre meditated...those actions speak louder than anything.
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